This week was the first anniversary of the death of Steven Curtis Chapman's five year old adopted daughter, Maria Sue. For those of you who don't know of Steven or of his family's story, it goes like this. Steven Curtis Chapman is a very successful Christian music artist who had six children (three biologic children and three adopted children from China). On May 21st, 2008 his five year old daughter, Maria Sue, was killed in his driveway when his older son backed over her with the family's SUV. It doesn't get a whole lot worse than that.
On Thursday night I had a beer with a friend who had some very hard but very valid questions about the sovereignty of God and the problem of God and evil. And, yes I had one very dark and malty beer. We can talk about the biblical view of alcohol consumption at another time so please don't let this be a stumbling block for you. It was a very refreshing beer but even more refreshing conversation from a man who is courageous enough and gracious enough to say what was on his mind even if it risked confrontation. Although he had a couple major concerns, God has laid it on my heart to address this one issue today: What is God's role in the evil that occurs in the world? HUGE question and one that has been the topic of four hundred page theses. This is not an easy topic to address in a five minute blog post so I want to do this over two weeks.
My friend and his wife have dealt with significant hardship surrounding the health of two young daughters. His concern I think was two fold. First, was the issue of how Christian friends often respond with platitudes or Christian-ese tag lines (though, likely well intentioned). They would say things like "God has a plan" or "God is testing you" or "God is using your daughters for a purpose". The second concern was, did God allow or cause the pain that had and still continues to occur? Or, is he outside of it completely. I want to touch on both of these very real and very important concerns.
I (we) have to start with this: God is who God is. I can't make a God after my own liking. So, I have to seek to know what God is like and not try to contrive a God I can wrap my mind around or a God that conforms to my preferences. God revealed his name to the people of Israel and that name was "Yahweh" which is translated "I am". He is who he is. The only way I can begin to grasp this is to humbly come to him and ask him. Then to try to set aside my own preconceived notions either of my own making or those that were forced upon me. So, here is what I know:
The Bible is very clear that God (Jesus) knows all things and he knows future things. Psalm 139 gives us a picture of this: "O, Lord, you have searched me and you know me. You know when I sit and when I rise; you perceive my thoughts from far afar. . . Before a word is on my tongue you know it completely." Jesus told Peter that he'd deny him three times (i.e. he already knew). Jesus healed the blind, the lame, the deaf, and raised the dead. He commanded the stormy seas to be calm. God allowed Satan to cause pain in the life of Job. God is involved and can and does interceded in the world and with the people he created. God didn't wind up creation then sit back and watch it unfold without intervention or concern. But how can we reconcile a God who is "love" with the occurrence and even the allowance of evil? If God knows everything and can't help or intercede then he is impotent and weak. (i.e. God sees suffering and says to himself "Dang, that is horrible! I sure wish I could do something about that.") That is not the God of the Bible and I would argue, not a God at all. If God is all powerful but refuses to intercede to prevent suffering, some would argue that he is evil or that he doesn't exist at all.
But maybe the answer is this: God does know, God does intercede, and God does allow things (even things we perceive as bad) because his perspective is so immeasurably more grand than ours and he knows from the perspective of being all knowing and from the perspective of eternity what is ultimately "good". I want to give a picture of what I mean and I'd like you to really try to mull over this until our next time together. Picture this: You are at a party and the host is cooking dinner. Your two year old daughter climbs up on a stool and reaches toward a large pot of boiling water. You sprint across the room, yelling "NO!" from the top of your lungs, you dive through the air and knock your daughter from the stool. As you both lay on the ground, your daughter is wailing and has a look of horror in her eyes. Her knee is scraped from the fall. In her limited mind, you are evil, mean, scary, and have caused her undeserved pain. What she fails to see is that you have saved her life or have averted a much worse scenario. The difference between your mental capacity and your daughters is not even close to the difference between our mental capacities and God's. Maybe, just maybe, God can see what we can't and we have to trust that somehow.. even if it is involves something as heinous as running over your little sister with the SUV that it can somehow be reconciled in the final tapestry of God's purpose and creation. I personally have to also remember that my life isn't lived in a vacuum and it is in some small way it is connected with MANY other lives and God is looking at that from back far.. When we look at newspaper print up real close all we see are some red, green, and blue dots (meaningless) but from back far it is the beautiful picture of a new born baby.
That's as good as I can do today my friends! By the way God is the only one who knows the "whys" surrounding a particular instance of evil or pain so be very careful trying to tell someone else why. If you don't know what else to say maybe just hug them instead! I know this post is entirely inadequate but then again, I am inadequate. But the God who lovingly knit you together is more than adequate! In the end there will be no more tears, no more death, no more mourning, or crying, or pain! (Revelation 21:4)
Love you all,
David
Thank you for the hug today. With what I have gone through in the last 2 weeks I wish more people would take that approach of providing a hug instead of saying something that might be unintentionally (or at least I hope it is) hurtful.
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ReplyDeleteI struggle with the Good Evil dynamic, and you state the issues quite well. The other piece is the Free Will piece, that allows us to do or not do things apart from the will of God. I belive God is always trying to make good out of our mess.
Dave (Jenny's Dad)
Thank you Dave for your words.. I didn't address the free will aspect of evil but it needs to be added. I know you know this but some may not have thought about it much. Love requires free will. I can't "Love" God if I can't also choose not to love him. God didn't create us to be robotic followers of him. With free will comes sin and with sin comes evil (murder, hate, deceit,etc.). But,God in his all-knowing, amazing way can and does "make good" out of our mess (even my ugly messes!). Thanks again Dave for opening that door. It may be the topic of a whole post soon.
ReplyDeleteIf in the end there will be no more tears, no more death, no mourning, or crying, or pain then why do we go on - why not bring life to an end - God knows when people are hurting, why not go and be with him?
ReplyDeleteGreat question! The answer has a couple different components and I want to start with this one. For those who have been reconciled (brought into a right relationship) to God through faith in Jesus Christ, it is indeed better to "go and be with Him" than to continue in this often painful world. You are right in your observation that it seems a bit crazy to go on here if we could be pain free now. And, that would be true, if it were all about us. but it's not all about us. The Apostle Paul said these words, "For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain." He agreed that to die and be with God is better but he also acknowledged that his life in the meantime is about Christ. It is about making sure that he led as many others as possible to saving faith in Christ so that they to may come to know an eternity with no more tears, no more death, no mourning, or crying, or pain. Here is the second part of the equation which is a bit harder to hear. John wrote those words of hope in the 21st chapter of Revelation referring to the new heaven and the new earth that God reveals at the end of "the age". He was talking about those who were saved, born again, redeemed, in Christ and not all people who were born. Paul was beheaded for sharing his faith to those who needed to hear the Gospel and John died in a dark prison on the Island of Patmos. Both would have been better to go and be with him but both continued on for the sake of others... The promise John gave us was for those who believed. Many, however don't know God and Paul understood that well. He suffered much so that others could come to claim that same promise. I hope that was helpful and I'd be glad to go deeper if you have more questions or if that didn't sit well with you... Peace, David
ReplyDeletePs. 31:14-16 But I trust in you , O Lord; My times are in your hands; deliver me from my enemies and from those who pursue me. Let your face shine on your servant; save me in your UNFAILING love.
ReplyDelete24 Be Strong and take heart, all you who hope in the Lord.
I hope you feel Him shining on you this week. (;
Anonymous, there was a time when I questioned the same thing. After a while I realized that my timing of when to join God was not up to me. He knew when he wanted me in this world and He knows when my time will end. Sometimes I really wonder why I am still here, however only he may ever know about the impact that I am making (on his behalf).
ReplyDeleteHe does know when we are hurting and he wants us to lean on him during those times. When I am hurting (which I have been a lot lately) I know I don't always have the ability to lean on him. So, I ask my brothers and sisters in Christ to help me. I lean on them and they go to our Lord on my behalf.
I'm a little behind on the calendar, but as I read these comments for the first time (great discussion by the way) it made me think of something.
ReplyDeleteOnce my salvation was secured (and yes, salvation IS a secure thing) I began living my eternal life. Now I will have to "pass" as it is said, but with eternal life before me, do I need to be so focused on myself all the time? Is the clock going to run out on my opportunity for joy, or love or peace?
So I'm thinking that my human "death" is a one time investment opportunity. I have an eternal appointment with life, but only a one time date with death. So how will I make the most of that fact? Will I live my life up to my "death" in fear? In self service? In apathy? Will I live it consumed by what I have or don't have in terms of money, freedom, or even "happiness"? Or will I live my life until my "death" appointment concerned about the welfare of others? Not just the temporary welfare of others, but also the eternal welfare of others. How will I invest up until my one time appointment with "death"? It's not over upon my "death" so how then shall I live?
Well said and well written !! I appreciate your pointing out the eternal security of those born again of the Spirit of God. I think many true believers live in fear wondering if God gave up on them because they slipped. We couldn't earn or salvation by our own effort and we certainly can't lose it that way either. The subject of another post for sure. I also am glad that you pointed out the difference between temporary welfare and eternal welfare.. if we focus on the first without doing the second, what have we done?
ReplyDeletePeace!